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I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - Big Flannel - 01-03-2015
I really want to improve my lead playing. I've never been speedy and I'm pretty much stuck in a pentatonic mindset. I've tried breaching out into other scales but I don't really know how to apply them based on a chord pattern. I can put together decent riffs, but after I write them I don't know how to go about playing complementary lead guitar.
What would you recommend for a blues guy that is wanting to improve his speed and accuracy while learning more rock and metal oriented voicings?
Formula73 compared my playing style to Billy Duffy from the Cult at one point so hopefully that provides some insight into my current skill set (or lack thereof).
Thanks guys.
RE: I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - LesStrat - 01-03-2015
I think I'm approaching the level of Kurt Cobain.
RE: I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - Big Flannel - 01-03-2015
(01-03-2015, 05:24 PM)LesStrat Wrote: I think I'm approaching the level of Kurt Cobain.
Suicide isn't the answer.
Seriously though, I love Nirvana.
RE: I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - LesStrat - 01-03-2015
Yeah, but I think it improved his playing.
RE: I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - CTN - 01-03-2015
I'm still kinda stuck in a pentatonic mindset in that that's where I feel most comfortable, but I've augmented the basic pentatonic shapes with a ton of passing notes and variations that borrow from other scales/modes so I can easily switch into something more eastern sounding or something weird and jazzy, or something dissonant, or spanish, etc etc.
learn 'dem modes bruh.
RE: I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - Big Flannel - 01-03-2015
I took music theory in HS and did really well but I've lost a lot of that knowledge
RE: I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - GoldenVulture - 01-03-2015
Free your mind from being key specific. Any note can be played depending on how you fit it in with the musical style your applying it too.
Even basic blues scaling will use out of key notes, such as bending one such note to a scale note.
RE: I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - CTN - 01-03-2015
oh yeah, dem bends too. gotta get dem bends.
and yeah, even though you're not really playing jazz, when you're playing lead, the thing of playing bum notes with conviction applies if you can figure out the "right" note to go to after the bum note. Takes some learning to get that right note though. Or you could just play it safe and do the safe notes that you can be assured of.
But you kinda gotta just play endlessly to get comfy playing lead with any amount of fluency.
RE: I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - GoldenVulture - 01-03-2015
(01-03-2015, 11:07 PM)CTN Wrote: oh yeah, dem bends too. gotta get dem bends.Yes, no getting around that.
and yeah, even though you're not really playing jazz, when you're playing lead, the thing of playing bum notes with conviction applies if you can figure out the "right" note to go to after the bum note. Takes some learning to get that right note though. Or you could just play it safe and do the safe notes that you can be assured of.
But you kinda gotta just play endlessly to get comfy playing lead with any amount of fluency.
I used to play along with " anything " that came up on the radio and not just R&R radio.
I Did it to expand my knowledge of styles. I learnt a lot about patterns that come with styles. The more familiar you become with them the more predictable they become. This is for both chord/song progressions and melodic lines.
I've always been big on set the Key, the timing. Improvise !
I was at a mates place back in the 80's. One of his friends was there with a guitar and amp and the latest Tommy Emanuel LP. I was fooling around with his guitar when he put on Tommy. I started improvising along. He asked if I'd heard it before because I was going from chord to chord along with it. The answer was tommy was using some fairly standard progressions. I'd never heard the album before, just knew the style and progressions.
A lot of shredding is just way out of scale but it really doesn't matter because of how its done.
RE: I'm copying Ryan again. (Help needed) - Big Flannel - 01-03-2015
It sounds like I just need to fogure out a way to get more comfortable with were the different voicings are on the fretboard.
Every once in a while I'll be playing and something will click as far as theory goes and I'll remember it but its a slow way to build my arsenal, ya know?
Of course, I'm a feel player so I can talk "theory" until I sound like DreX but that's not where I'm comfortable.