Back to virtus, caps?

[kinnikuman]

Ok so i have

2x bkp sinners
2x cts pots
switchcraft 3way
The dimarzio shockwave

The diagram


The guitar


Now what caps should i use? This is what i have to choose from.

[CTN]

0.047uf is usually more suited to your avg. single coils, and 0.022uf is standard for humbuckers.

Given the fact that the Sinners are quite unlike your average single coil in terms of raw output and EQ, I'd go for the 0.033uf cap, cuz that's a nice middle ground between 0.047 and 0.022.

I recently put a 0.015uf Orange Drop on my Showmaster. It's supposedly the correct value for the Clapton "woman tone", and it does nail it quite nicely with the tone rolled down to 0. Round and vocal while still having good articulation.

[CTN]

At least I'm being sensible and keeping it to values.

Blue and Kojak would be arguing about the colour of the damn caps and whether axial or radial configuration sounds better.

tossers.

[kinnikuman]

0.047uf is usually more suited to your avg. single coils, and 0.022uf is standard for humbuckers.

Given the fact that the Sinners are quite unlike your average single coil in terms of raw output and EQ, I'd go for the 0.033uf cap, cuz that's a nice middle ground between 0.047 and 0.022.

I recently put a 0.015uf Orange Drop on my Showmaster. It's supposedly the correct value for the Clapton "woman tone", and it does nail it quite nicely with the tone rolled down to 0. Round and vocal while still having good articulation.

OK thanks for the info. Yellow would look cooler though,

[beaubrummels]

Any cap will do the same job, except the ceramics. Throw those away.

[CTN]

ultimately though... nothing anyone says is of any use.

use your ears, see what sounds best.

[kinnikuman]

Any cap will do the same job, except the ceramics. Throw those away.

Whys that?

[CTN]

for relevance

http://tonefiend.com/uncategorized/capacitor-smackdown/

[beaubrummels]

Whys that?

I did exactly that same ToneFiend experiment. I measured all the caps to ensure they were < 5% tolerance (mine were actually within 2.7% of tolerance).

Before I even started, however I noticed the value of the cheap ceramics were not stable - they kept going up and down, the value was a moving target. When I played through them, sure enough all caps of the same value sounded the same, except the cheap ceramic which was muddy and indistinct - detail got lost, notes in chords weren't clear, and the output was slightly lower - the volume dropped when I switched that one in.

I did this experiment with both 250k pot and .047uF caps and a 500k pot and .022uf caps (including two different versions of Vitamin Q, PIO, Black Bees, Orange Drops, Mylar roll, etc.)

So what I learned is throw cheap ceramic discs away. They are defective: they leak signal and do not consistently discharge, which makes the value inconsistent in real time, which will audibly affect the sound.

Any other cap of the same value regardless of manufacturer or construction type, as long as the value is within tolerance, will darken the tone as expected and consistently. The only consideration with different types is life span. Paper In Oil will dry up over time, changing it's value, which will change the corner frequency that the tone control works on.

[kinnikuman]

Wow cool thanks for the info.

I need to get onto wiring this thing up. I am super lazy at the moment.

Wish one of you guys could do it for me while i have a blunt or two.